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So, what do I think we want if I'm not satisfied with Internet-2? what do we need as Internet-3? First, there's nobody who's got a vision for it. No one's said: "This is what its got to be. Let me put my stake in the ground.

First we want a dial tone for high speed symmetrical links. Whatever the network's going to be, it must be symmetrical. You can send to me, I can send to you at the same time and data rate. That's an important part. Symmetry is the key . I want to allow bit warehouses or bit stores or bit places for audio, nice images, or television. And then, 4D so we can do virtual reality. That's a bandwidth question. With that we can do the tele stuff. That is we can do the remote conferencing, remote work and remote business. I think those things are needed.